Suicide leash connection and the Backroll

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Ok guys I have commited to Jean to teach him the first trick in the bag. The backroll introduces the suicide leash setup so you can spin the bar.

Suicide
So 1st you need to learn how the saftey and self flagging and downing your kite works in this setup. Now I am going to decribe the Rabbit or Waroo. So we need to discuss other kites later.

The Oh Shit Handle or steering lines line connected to ends of you bar to wing tips are use to flag a kite. As a newbie you attach your leash here. But if you throw a backroll (it’s ok it will just rotate your leash which you can correct back on land) Remember doing 2-3 will cause a dangerous situation and twisted leash around the depower line to many times. So you connect leash now to the chicken loop, depower rope, or special ring on a double depower like 08 Waroo bar (please don’t guess and chime in with your specific bar and gear this is an overview). So this way you can untwist the lines with every backroll you throw.

When you crash your kite and let go of the bar the kite depowers as usual. But if you unhook or relaese your chicken loop it will not flag anymore! Flaging is it lays out flat from holding one wing tip. It may spin too like this in the wind like a pinwheel. But really doesn’t pull elongated downwind from you same way you roll it out with a wing tip facing the wind to pump the struts. But this is necessary to land the kite in an emergency and flag out. So we need to make sure one steering line is held while the bar and other three lines are released. So instead of holding the one steering line your leash and releasing your loop. You hold it arm straight and release your loop and now effectively you are holding one steering line with your arm and hand doing the job of your leash and the kite is flagged. But you don’t reach out and pull one steering line or you would turn your kite. You reach out grasp it and release all three other lines and the bar. So now the kite is held by one steering line if you were to let go the your kite is free to go. You want to bring the kite initially to one side of the window and you choose to grasp the wing tip that is closest to the ground as best choice. Although flaging is flaging works either wing tip.

BACKROLL
Now this maneuver is NOT a back flip! It needs to be attempted in steps so that you ease into it vs Jermy who just does a backflip and crashes. My way, you will stop throw it and then re-dive the kite and water start. But you will immediately get it with NO risk! How you ask?

Riding as normal lets’ s say left foot forward you slowly move(not throw, no jump, no send) the kite to 12pm. You will slow and right when you are about to stop you will do the next step as the sinking feeling begins. You will scrunch up your legs as you hit 12pm so you can spring. Push hardest with your front foot in this case your left one. Look over your left shoulder and push really hard with that front foot vs rear causeing spin over you left shoulder. Your axis needs to be like a "sit in spin"(do not make me explain this!). Like a cup of coffee that you can spin without spilling the coffee. Meaning your board will not be going over your shoulder like Jermy. If you were standing on the beach and rotated 360 causing one twist in your lines. You would not have jumped rather spin in a circle 360 feet never leaving ground. That’s it!! Board stays the same 1ft off the water all the way around! Like a gyro you played with as a kid. We all know if you pick a gyro up while spinning and change that axis you will wipe out again like jermy!! LOL

So picture it the kite is directly above you and you are about stopped in regard to forward motion. If the kite was not above you then you would be doing a powered back roll with an axis that in the coffee cup example would spill the coffee out of the cup as the bottom of the cup would be at an angle. This is exactly what you are seeing out there though and the more axis the faster and cooler your roll but NOT 1st TIME!!! That’s the secret!! With the kite above you and the lines perpendicular to water you have created your moment to rotate away from your direction of travel to your back or behind you in this case to your left shoulder spinning to left pushing hard with your front foot. If done at 12pm who cares if you go ¼, ½, ¾ or all the way around ass you are not really moving forward anymore!!. It’s like imitating the first time you put your board on you get all backwards or sideways. You will sink in the water no matter how far you made it.. Kite is at 12 noon NO forward motion!! Spin the rest or unspin and water start. Keep trying this stupid nothing trick till you push hard enough on you front leg and come around 360 and your lines are twisted 1 time!! Now with the new suicide setup unspin and waterstart!! Now you just need to try this with slight forward motion and eventually you will kinda half sink in and ride away diving your kite to get back going the direction you were traveling. Eventually you bring kite two 12m a little faster(no jump) bend legs push hard front leg, look over shoulder as we follow our head and eyes and do it before you sink in and have the kite going back down to keep yah going.

Then you can start making the axis more vertical or doing off chop..

Anyone want me to make sure you get it. Pull me aside! it would be my pleasure and honor!!

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Re: Suicide leash connection and the Backroll

Then add a kiteloop...

Hopefully these days the "suicide" connection is not longer suicide! I think most kites can flag off the center line now..

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Re: Suicide leash connection and the Backroll

The Rabbits have a line you can pass through the center of the bar(its the same line material as a flying line). So you can spin and get double depower like the 08 best bar does!

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Re: Suicide leash connection and the Backroll

Push hardest with your front foot in this case your left one. Look over your left shoulder and push really hard with that front foot vs rear causeing spin over you left shoulder.

Wouldn't you be looking over your right shoulder in this case?

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Use this to see backroll left foot forward look over left shoulder - right foot forward look over right shoulder.

This however is not the easy version as this guy is moving and makes it seem to easy! You can do this from a stop prior to sinking. Just so you can get the feel. I learned the hard way. Going all in you might do all sorts of weird crap and input the kit ect. The kite does not spin you do.

I expect that this thread only gets you to realize that if you give me 10min with you, i can show you, take the fear, give back coinfidence!. You will do this and no way will you get hurt. SO shut that part of the brain off trust me and join the "its not even hard" club!!

Give me the opportunity to have you go home with a new ability! Plus you will succeed cause Ill be watching and you will just get it done within 30minutes..

The END!

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Re: Suicide leash connection and the Backroll

Ok, but then it seems he pushes off with the rear foot.

Have you ever browsed this mag?

http://www.iksurfmag.com/technique.php? ... Go#content

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Re: Suicide leash connection and the Backroll

Don't be nervous about it, it's super easy.

For your first one, just park the kite at 12, turn as hard as you can up wind, and throw your weight over your shoulder like you wanted to spin around on your back in the water. I wrote a technique article I think for backrolls...

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Re: Suicide leash connection and the Backroll
Dunoyer wrote:
Ok, but then it seems he pushes off with the rear foot.

Have you ever browsed this mag?

http://www.iksurfmag.com/technique.php? ... Go#content

Yes Jermy brough this to light.. Great resource.

Jean I will lend you my pro~gress~ion intermediate. maybe you know how to make an .ISO

wont publically say more..Im no criminal..

But be suprised if people start handing youy free beers on the beach trying to be your friend.. cant copy a beer
:doh:

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Oh I'm just so sad hearing

Oh I'm just so sad hearing about the Suicide leash connection. I've gone to the bestessay.com recently and they've helped me out plenty as well. Perhaps they could help you with that backroll.

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